One of the favourite topic for the Supreme Leader of Pakatan Rakyat is the price of petrol and diesel. Last night in Penang City Stadium , he said that Malaysia is the only net exporter country in the world with such a high petrol price(RM2.70 or USD0.84). What a great liar, he intentionally omitted many net exporting countries that have even higher petrol price than Malaysia.
Some of these countries are as followed:-
Norway - USD2.74/liter (use only 10% of their crude oil production); Canada is USD1.45/liter (export oil to US); Russia is USD1.049/liter(world no. 2 net oil exporter), U.K is USD2.26/liter (recently became net exporter), etc
Read for yourself the following profile:
a. Russia energy profile (World No. 2 net exporter)
b. Norway energy profile (World No 4 net exporter)
c. Canada energy profile (World No 16 net exporter)
d. Malaysia energy profile (World No 26 net exporter)
Norway is the world No. 4 net exporter of oil, with a population less than 5 million but the price of petrol is RM8.85. What happened to all the petrol dollars? Is Norway a corrupt country? Definitely, a BIG NO, as Norway is in the top ten of the least corrupt countries in the world.
So why is it so high in Norway? I think it will be beneficial for my blog readers to do some research to understand gasoline prices in relation to development economics policies.
Don't be fooled by Pakatan Rakyat politicians that make cheap statements or promises.
Recommended blog on world energy: http://ergobalance.blogspot.com
Top World Oil Net Exporters, 2006 (thousand barrels per day) | |||
Rank | Country | Exports | |
1 | 8,525 | ||
2 | 6,866 | ||
3 | 2,564 | ||
4 | 2,551 | ||
5 | 2,462 | ||
6 | 2,340 | ||
7 | 2,183 | ||
8 | 2,131 | ||
9 | 1,842 | ||
10 | 1,710 | ||
11 | 1,530 | ||
12 | 1,438 | ||
13 | 1,379 | ||
14 | 1,145 | ||
15 | 1,032 | ||
P.S. I hate the petrol price increase, but I hate liar even more.
What is even more worst is that the Supreme Leader want Malaysian to sacrifice regional developments (to forgo the regional development corridors) for the reduction of petrol and diesel prices if Pakatan Rakyat takeover. Actually he received lukewarm response for that - either the audience don't understand him or prefer development)
27 comments:
Let's not talk about Russia, where the great majority of families are teetering on the edge of poverty. We don't aspire to be like Russians nor do we aspire to be like the Burmese.
You talk about Norway, Canada and UK. Those are countries that we should emulate. The household income for those countries are over RM10K per month. Compare that with our meagre RM3K. Now tell me who is suffering more!!
You call Anwar a liar last night. I disagree and say you are just splitting hairs. Just like you wrote that he is a "great lier" at last night's event, so does that make you a LIAR!! I don't think so, but I simply take it as a spelling mistake.
It obvious he was talking to the masses and more of a figure of speech. Besides, he was only given about 30 minutes so he had to simplify things and not get into details. He also did clarify that Myanmar's case in terms of price increase percentage was worse but explained we don't want to be like them.
Yes, HKL.
Anwar is the great liar! Of course la, he was the former deputy president of UMNO!
he mentioned something about the fuel prize between indonesia and malaysia, whereby indonesia is an importer whereas malaysia is an exporter of petrol/fuel! anwar said the importer was selling lower than the exporter? apalah! wrong lah! they talked to all BTC la.
the price should...
indonesia - about RM3.00
malaysia - RM2.70
which one is higher? of course lah,
indonesia. yes, anwar is the champion of liar! only those with less general knowledge would trust him!
his ultimate aim is to help himself to be the prime minister lah. do you think he really wants to help all of us?
bullshit lah! anwar and the gang would prefer to help filling their pocket lah! you see or not, the shirts of pkr are so nice! hello, expensive loh! of course lah, they're rich now!
Fishhook:
The one that talk about Myammar was you idol, LGE not that Supreme Leader.
At this moment, I am not talking about household income. Norway can afford to give her citizens free petrol, why not?
Do you know the answer?
30 minutes is not short when you basically talk about one topic. Anyway, see his video on youtube, he is lying also on this matter.
(Thank you, for pointing out the spelling error)
Oh ya.. now I remember it's LGE. Thanks for correcting me too.
In Norway's case it's mainly for environmental reasons.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/04/29/business/norway.php
If you said Anwar only talked about one topic during his speech last night then that makes you the liar. He also touched on being misquoted by BN (anak Cina, anak India), morallity of crossovers, urge BN MP who care for people to crossover, etc...
badluck, in just 100 days you have changed you mind and perception of PR so drastically (you blog says you voted for PR but regrets now). It just shows how fickle and immature you are with your decisions. You are like one who have fallen so much in love with a girl to marry her, but divorce her in 100 days because she doesn't cook as well as you like. Give her time to learn la. Be patient. Rememeber why you married her in the first place.
Fishhook:
Yes, he took a few minutes to talk about some of the things you mentioned. He also took a minute or two for his salutation. He also took a minute or two to joke.
But - His Topic For The Night was OIL PRICE HIKE - he wants to capitalize on it.
Right, one of Norway main reason is environment. So because of the environment the government set an extremely high petrol price.
Do you know there were demonstrations across Europe on the gasoline price by fishermen? In fact, nowadays, it is rare to find countries that do not have demonstration on petrol price hike. Most of the world citizens are unhappy about the hike, not only Malaysians.
Is the environment more important than some of Norway middle class or poorer citizens livelihood?
Do you know that environment is a factor considered in development economics?
The Malaysian government have its right to determine it economics development policies. Eventually, the people will have to decide whether it is the right policies - in the next GE.
However, this post seek to rebuke the Pakatan Rakyat supreme leader for lying.
fishhook, my comment was not meant for you. everyone has got the personal choice or view of voting or chosing.
i have my own judgement and don't need to report to anyone else, including you or hkl!
but, i thank you for your concern.
you can't take a marriage as an example in this case. i don't have any marriage certificate with the PR government and they also wouldn't give me any compensation if they leave me! can they promise to take care of my children, if they leave? can they take care of my children if i'm not around for business? can they take care of me or sleep with me, if they really care for me, so on and so for.
you may be aware, some couples divorce even within weeks, or not even 100 days. do you know the difficulies or reasons of theirs. of course, you wouldn't know the exact reasons, and they wouldn't have to explain to you too. of course, they wouldn't do that if they have the choice. but, we're the outsiders, we have to respect their choice.
if i have the chance, i can share with you, why my group of friends + me really regret in voting for them. of course, nothing to do with business. i'm exporting condoms and i don't need their help too. but, they are really useless and getting buta-gaji + doing nothing except shouting or making noice on the streets or roads. they always say they have no power in this and that, but they never take the initiative to bring some matters up for consideration.
before the election, they came to my house (with a present mp and adun) and said we're brothers, we could do this and that for you all, but after they won, they say something else.
we want the real representatives of ours. they are good talker. that's all.
i can tell you all, i will definitely vote for some other brands (of course not umno), if another chance is given.
i can tell you all, all my family members have been voting for dap for more than 20 years. but, we all can see the real faces or situation when they take over the administration. sad, they should have taken the power earlier, so we all know them earlier.
a big F to them, the mp for jelutong and adun for batu lanchang.
Since Mr H'ng emphasized that this posting is about rebuking DSAI lying, I would like to ask him why not once in his postings since March (111 of them according to the archives) was there a topic about Badawi lying?
Examples :-
He denies pending nuptials, soon after, he marries Datin Jeanne.
He denies rumors of elections, the very next day, he dissolves parliament.
And the recent fuel price increases?
Are these not examples of lying?
Is Badawi not Mr H'ng's supreme leader?
So can Mr H'ng please explain to me the difference?
And to badluck;
You assert that "Anwar is the great liar! Of course la, he was the former deputy president of UMNO!"
Correct me if I'm wrong but are you not claiming that all leaders of UMNO are liars with that assertion?
So what is it you're trying to tell us?
That UMNO must be toppled right? So why oppose those who are precisely trying to do just that.
One more thing badluck;
"bullshit lah! anwar and the gang would prefer to help filling their pocket lah! you see or not, the shirts of pkr are so nice! hello, expensive loh! of course lah, they're rich now!"
Are you implying that being in government is automatically a means to be rich?
I wonder what Mr H'ng has to say to that?
romerz,
yes, your interpretations were right! he has been a liar since long, i would say since his umno days. he has been so rich. where did he get the money to go through a long legal process some years ago, after he was asked to leave umno? how come he got so many top lawyers? nothing is free la!
if given another choice, he wouldn't leave umno la and he would still sing the song of umno la. his followers are the same!
yes, no question asks, many politicians become very rich after they are elected especially those umno guys including anwar and some present pkr leaders (they're ex-umno)
of course la, some "clean" ones remain poor loh.
ask ourselves, do you think they really want to help us the ordinary malaysians? give "ang-pow" and rice to some families. that was one time only loh. is it a long term plan for us in penang? to me, those were just part of the drama in politics. same goes to all parties in the world. just ask, do they have the real heart to help the people? or they're helping themselves to get something in return?
to me, i support those who can support us physically, not verbally. i don't like to always hear they keeping telling us this and that, wanting us to vote them, to put them in the federal government. for what? for them to get bigger salaries and better packages?
they prefer to help themselves la!
you can have your own views and opinions. but, i withhold mine.
i can tell you, even lim kit siang is also vy rich.
haha.. romerz, I was about to write what you wrote after reading Matthias Chang's entry in his blog about that lying AAB.
badluck, you seem to have the opinion that PR reps MUST be poor in order to represent you. Many of them are also successful lawyers, businessman, etc so what's wrong with not being poor. Some are really smart people so as long as their wealth is accountable I don't see any problem.
LKS is certainly not poor and why should he be with MP's salary and allowance, and having a heart surgeon son and now a chief minister son. So his wealth level is justifiable.
If you say LKS is rich, I'm willing to bet Khoon Leng's idol, KJ, is many times richer although being half LKS's age. Now where did KJ's wealth come from? His fashion boutique selling men's shirt at RM1000?
fishhook and romerz, by all means you can continue having your own opinions. but, i continue having mine. it's simple!
yes, KJ is very rich! but it's none of my business. you all can care for him or even F him if you like or ask dap & team to go after him!
who're the successful lawyers of dap in penang? you mean kapal singh & son only or + many others?
Romerz:
I have not bother about any UMNO leaders as this point in time. Gerakan want them to cleaned up their act too. That is for our senior leaders to work on.
Using his marriage, is really hitting below the belt. He had wanted to keep his marriage private, can't you have the decency to respect that?
Yes, on recent petrol price hike and also on the election date for GE12 , he tried to evade the reporters persistent prodding for answers that simply gave them answer that is not the truth or to be blunt a lie. He lack the evading skill of Mahathir.
The date of the above 2 items are of strategic and critical important, that he could not simply divulged. As I said, he should learn from Mahathir.
As I had said, my post is about Anwar. So I assumed you agreed he LIED. He had lied for his personal benefit.
Fishhook:
Please note that KJ is not my idol. Please don't made such simple assumption.
hkl, i support your point that anwar and gang are the liars. in politics, they're not considered as liars, but they're called the great men for the rakyat!
i don't understand why people could accept their ways of doing? as said many times, they're not to help us the rakyat la, but to help themselves fulfilled their political objectives.
obviously, the main aim of anwar is to be the prime minister one of these days, after his hard works of making all rakyat BTC and trust him the most!
can we trust them? can we support them to be the CHIEF of malaysia? they may just the song of life after a successful approach!
ok la, leave it to those who can listen, trust and support the group of liars. that is none of my business, of course. people like fishhook and romerz, what can they look at? other than the surface, nothing else. sometime, some people would like to hear all those liar stories.
like fishhook, he/she took a girl as an example. yes, sometime, girls like to hear all those liar stories too, even they know those are liar statements.
anyway, i always leave to them, as i'm not in the position or i don't even have to correct their view points. but i think they would also respect the view points of others too. on ocassions, they shouldn't tend to assume this and that for their personal desire on certain aspects.
even LGE and his useless excos are getting buta-gaji! what can they do physically? shouting and making noise on the streets or roads! what else? can they really help the rakyat like us? as said, what they're interested is to be the federal government. while on the way, they may just give some sweets or ang-pow! as a former professor of USM said those are acts of drama in politics! what? paid one-off RM100 to each family! what can we do with the RM100 nowadays? for one or two round of meal? so, that was not practical! do lah, something that's long term!
if they have no power in certain areas, show their power by using their truth heart, and talk to the prime minister! if still cannot, please other effective ways! these are all their jobs, otherwise don't be the state government la!
please ask LGE and his useless excos to stop taking buta-gaji! and start working effectively, not always by their "mouth" only!
badluck, i like your ways of expression. it's simple and clear.
i think yes, LGE and gang shouldn't continue doing nothing except for ambil gaji. they can work with their mouth only?
what have they actually BUAT for Pulau Pinang? there is no sign of economic growth? no sign of better employment opportunities? no sign of better traffic flow? no sign of better safety in pulau pinang?
But there is a big sign of penang lang gathering to support their career enhancement and so they baru ada gaji ambil lo.(gaji buta)
they prefer to have better positions and salaries. there are signs of these.
Khoon Leng,
I believe your sole intention of this post is to say Anwar is a liar based on one phrase he said "Malaysia is the ONLY net exporter country in the world with such a high petrol price". Perhaps if Anwar had said ONE OF THE FEW instead of ONLY then you would have no case against him and he would in fact be true.
Then you wrote "30 minutes is not short when you basically talk about ONE topic" and later reversed saying "Yes, he took a few minutes to talk about some of the things you mentioned." signifying more than ONE topic. So perhaps you should have used ONE OF THE FEW instead of ONE.
With the two cased being similar, if you so strongly call Anwar a liar, doesn't it also make you one?
Perhaps it would be wiser to just accept both cases as a slip of the tongue to stress a point and not make an issue out of it.
And again, you accuse me of making assumptions that KJ is your idol when in fact a few comments before you yourself made the similar assumption that LGE is my idol. Do I smell hypocrisy here too? Pot calling the kettle black?
Let's start some discussion on how the increased will be good or not good for long term development. It is definitely a painful move for short term but with a long term positive impact if the Federal Govt knows how to use the subsidies save effectively.
If we assume that there are 8 millions vehicle owners in Malaysia, this means that the oil subsidy will only benefit this 30% of the Malaysian population.
It is construe that the subsidies saved will be about RM 40 Billion. Having a 2nd Penang Brige is only RM 4.7 Billion (after the increased). Throw in the underground LRT, perhaps another RM 2 Billion for the 2nd year. Share out the rest of the RM 40 Billion with other states each year.
The rest of the money can be invested for free education for the children which includes school uniform and etc for those below a certain income level. This will definitely removed the worries of the poor parents each year the school starts and in addition, ensure the right spending of the fund.
Remember RM 40 Billion is 1 year savings. This means that if the subsidies saved is well managed, you will get a better life in 2 years down the road.
What we should pressure the Federal Government is a blue print of the plan on how we can spend the savings to show that it will be well managed and benefits the true Rakyat.
I believed such discussion will be more beneficials than focusing on who is a liar as we can argue until the cow comes home but we have not moved a step forward.
Dear Mr H'ng,
Whether Anwar lied or Badawi lied is actually very trivial. It is expected of politicians in a country where the majority of the population don't know any better.
My comment was more picking an argument with you for the pettiness of your original comment.
You forget that I was a Gerakan supporter for 3 GEs and all I want is for Gerakan to regain its relevance but being petty about choice of words DOES NOT help the cause, especially coming from a potential leader of the party!
Of course the PR have problems! Only a fool can't see otherwise!
But you know and I know that our problems today are caused by the UMNOputras so why don't you put your blog to better use and attack them?
In my letter of 20 April to your acting president, I told him of the need to embrace the IT culture of the young rakyat. This is an SMS I received yesterday relating to Gerakan's website;
“I m disappointed in Gerakan website. 8 headlines not a single article how Gerakan going to help Rakyat address issue of subsidies, petronas a/c, healthcare n education.”
Mr H'ng, you're young and seem quite tech-savvy. Why don't you devote your energy to revamping the party website and make it more current and relevant?
I spoke to your acting president after the CEO talk a few weeks back about the need to push Gerakan's involvement in cyber dissemination of information and this is his reply;
"I understand what you're proposing but unfortunately, the internet is only useful to the English educated. The Chinese ed members don't rely so much on the internet".
From him I can understand but still not acceptable. From you guys of the youth wing, I don't understand the lack of effort.
I did my part as a supporter. What more can I say when I'm only a supporter and not a member?
Until you guys understand that come the next GE, there will be more tech-savvy voters entering the fray, Gerakan will lose again!
Wake up Mr H'ng. You have a role to play and play your role to its full effectiveness.
Taking petty swipes at the PR only makes you look small!
You know why? It angers those who are neutral. And there are plenty of them!
Stop being a 'loyal' foot soldier and start being a Tanjung Youth leader!
Romerz,
You are damn right! I am a neutral and it pisses me off that HKL, or even KTK for that matter keeps picking on trivial matters, they have just become UMNO apologists and LGE whackers.
I hope these loyal foot soldiers can champion the rights of the rakyat like Gerakan 20 yrs ago or the DAP/PSM now.
There are pressing matters like inequality among educational opportunities, blatant racism from UMNO, crime including Altantunya, rising petrol prices, corruption -KJ,PM's son and gang, which all accounted for by the failure of UMNO and its policies.
Romerz, I support your suggestion that these issues need to be blogged and not how LGE failed to fix a porthole or anwar lied abt the net exporter thingy (nevermind Badawi lied abt GE, wife, petrol prices)
Touching on petrol prices, again HKL manipulates the issue.
I agree that some net exporters have higher petrol prices, but has HKL lived in those countries? I have in one of them. They all are 1st world countries with excellent public transport, with exceptionally high average wages (abt 4 thousand euros - roughly RM 16000) and excellent social support - free health care, education, etc.
If Malaysia can provide these then increase someore also can. Until then, pls compare with 3rd world countries who are net exporters like Venezuela (30 sen) or middle east (RM 1 something).
I understand Badawi at this point has to increase because govt cant afford, but WHY? They can even afford petrol prices at 1.30 if
1. No mega corruption and total flop like perwaja steel and port klang free zone
2. Stop mega projects that only benefits small group of rakyat - like Putrajaya and Proton city.
3. Stop using petronas to bail out big UMNO company failures - three time bail out of Renong and last time bail out of Mokzani's MISC. Bail out of poorly managed MAS.
4. Stop subsidising power plant companies that make billions in revenue just because they are UMNO linked.
5. Stop big money sponsors like F1 teams - how is it helping? There is no petronas station in europe or america for god sakes and malaysians know abt petronas already.
If these can be even partially followed, we can save billions or billions and use these money saved to either reduce petrol prices or channel it to rakyat by building 2nd bridge for free, free healthcare for poor, etc.
Penang was poorly managed by Gerakan, and Malaysia is poorly managed by UMNO.
Romerz:
I am no foot soldier of anyone. I am just a mere Gerakan youth leader in Tanjung. I don't kowtow to anyone. KTK just got a kinda sarcastic sms from me today(I prefer washing dirty linen at home).
Look at my post, none "bodek" KTK or even any Gerakan leaders. In fact, the rare occasion I bodek someone in my post - that I can recalled - was YB Phee of DAP.
Of course, my post are clearly pro-Gerakan party. Most political blogs are anti-Gerakan or anti-BN.
We talk about freedom of expression. I am exercising mine. I want to provide an alternate view. I don't monopolize the internet, I am a tiny speck of dust in the vast sea of cyber information.
In the internet, we are the alternate/minority view, not the mainstream. You may feel that this post is petty. I beg to differ. May be I am naive. Whether you want to believe or not, I tolerate/accept white lies not blatant lies. I believe the greatest protection is the truth. Anwar lied. That was the point I want to make with this post.(Because of that I will apologize if the fact I presented can be proven to be false or wrong)
Butterworth boy said I manipulated the issue. I do not think so. I presented the facts on the actual gasoline prices for some net exporting countries. He can talk about 1st world country, higher household wages, and better social support. But, those countries have much much higher cost of living (no doubt our cost of living have also increased drastically). Does he realize Oslo(Norway) is THE most expensive place to live in world? More expensive than Tokyo. Anyway, this is not the subject of my post.
Yes, I agreed the website have to buck up. I am not involved. I am just a working class/ blue collar security equipment installer.
Yes, it is serious, one Malaysiakini feature writer wrote that Gerakan do not have an ideology simply because he did not realize that he had search for it using Firefox which was not properly supported. It had been corrected after I had feedback to HQ. Of course, there are many more to be down, it is the HQ responsibility.
I have an activity cum service center to take care. I am at my limit and should focus on my rice bowl. However, because I support Gerakan by choice not by coincidence nor friendship. I will find time to do more as you suggested.
Thank you for comment and suggestion.
HKL is defending petrol price rise by comparing us to Oslo. Wat a joke! Their relative cost of living is actually lower (cost of living compared to what they earn) so please do not think the rakyat is stupid! Look at their poverty rate and ours!
He says he is critical of KTK (yeah rite!) but he seems to be very loyal foot soldier for Badawi's racist regime which has completely screwed up our economy, indirectly supporting Badawi's decision to raise petrol price.
The hit from petrol price rise has hit us so much that we ordinary citizens simply fighting day to day survival. Chicken price is up, rice is up, transport up - all consequences of mismanagement of economy.
HKL, Gerakan and you should ditch racist UMNO and be independent. Give us a third option. Then demand for petronas money for the rakyat. AT the moment only UMNOputeras are getting the rewards - for example the number of times renong was bailed out, MISC, and why 95% of scholarship is given to bumis only when our children are poor too.
HKL, you and Gerakan will lose respect if you dont defend the rakyat - we find it so hard to survive, even vernacular newspapers reported the hardship faced by the rakyat when Petronas directors (appointed by Govt) are living in luxury.
People, look at the Star paper from Jan 16 1999 - Khoon Leng had been investigated with an umno leader called Datuk Rashid for cheating a chinese school land money - traitor to the community. All Gerakan bastards are like this!
Ohh yalor,
I just saw the article, quite hard to find but lucky the star paper office had copies.
I didnt realise that this khoon leng is a corrupted guy - shame on him.
If you steal from chinese school i have no respect already - you go jump penang bridge like rest of your gerakan suai.
Very sueh having Gerakan.
the rakyat in reality is dissatisfied with the way BN manages the country; which biased towards one single race policies.
These include noentheless the major aspect of economy and education. It is very obvious the act openly wihtout hurting the feeling or benefits of others. These groups who are always under the suppresion of the unfair treatment, has decided in the 12th Election to voice out their long suppressed painfulness. In reality, many of these group also do not like the opposition to lead the country but they have no other alternative... but to do something.
I think the current scenario may help to change the mindset of these extremists soon.
HKL,
if gerakan has more ppl of your mentality, gerakan is indeed doomed!!!!
how can u calculate a petrol cost by converting it too RM!! YOU ARE SO BLARDY STUPID!! o wonder u still remain as a security equipment installer and has attemp to cheat to become rice!!
let me tech you some maths since you security installer are not good in this:
exp:
a fresh grad in SGP earning SGD2500 and a HTC PDA is selling SGD 1000(1 yrs++ ago price). he/she bought this phone, salary 2500 - phone cost 1000, left 1500 in his pocket.
while a poor chap in MY also earn RM2500, and the phone here is selling RM 1800!!, so he likes the phone so much and he bought it. 2500-1800, only left RM700 in his pocket, in the end of the day, who got more money left in his pocket??? understand bo?
Many of us agrees after 100 days, LGE got not much thing to show, but after 20 years, what gerakan show us? beside Chong EU time(i really tabik this gentlemen), gerakan only show us penangite what a loyal umno dog he is!!
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