I don't think a fresh voter roll will avoid criticism from political parties. There are always something to criticize.
But, I am for a new roll. After more than 50 years, the current roll is full of rubbish. It will take an extremely huge effort to clean up the existing electoral roll.
But, SPR needs to revamp it electoral management first. It also need to set up an automatic verification system with the National Registration Dept. If it is not done, a fresh roll will eventually become a toilet roll.
PR parties usually do minimum assistance for the voters on electoral information. BN do most of the work. We face a lot of problems with the roll, a few of these problems in Tanjong are as followed:
- Same address but referring to actually two or three houses/buildings. For example, XX Pengkalan Weld can refer to a building with the no XX on Pengkalan Weld Road, a house on the old Reclamation Area and a house on the Surname Jetties. Therefore, one address can have more than 20 voters.
- Many pre-war houses do not exist anymore, but most are still in the list. For example, in Tek Soon Road and Jalan Lintang (where Komtar is built now).
- Many voters in the list have incomplete addresses.
- Dead voters are still not removed, it should be an automatic process.
- Voters in the same house, but voting in different state constituencies.
- Voters in the same house, but voting in different schools.
- Voters missing from the list after the electoral roll is updated.
- And many others.
A clean roll that is done transparently will removed one of their election gimmick.
P.S: There are most probably some inappropriate election practices in the past in Penang by the parties in government and the opposition parties. I do not hold this view for the Kelantan electoral roll, I think there are frauds in that state. But, generally the electoral roll in the country is free from frauds but as I said it is full of inaccuracies.
Star Online, Monday, 26 may 2008
EC wants fresh voter roll
By G. MANIMARAN and ZANARIAH ABD. MUTALIB PUTRAJAYA: The Election Commission wants a fresh voter roll and this will involve the re-registration of the 10.9 million Malaysians who are already registered as voters.
EC chairman Tan Sri Abdul Rashid Abdul Rahman (pic) said a new roll which catered to the current needs was necessary and would be acceptable to all parties.
“The new registration exercise will be held if the Government accepts the proposal. We hope the proposal will be accepted,” he said this during an interview with mStar Online, The Star's Malay news portal.
Abdul Rashid said the EC would propose to the Government to have a special law to enable the drawing up of a new roll after the commission’s panel members meet on June 9.
“We have jurisdiction to only examine and update the current list and not to come up with a fresh list,” he said.
He said the proposal was among those brought up in the EC’s post-mortem meeting after the recent elections.
Abdul Rashid likened the existing roll as a “thorn in his flesh” because it had come under heavy criticism from many quarters.
The current roll contains the names of 10.9 million voters.
It excludes another four million people who are eligible to vote but have not registered.
Political parties have alleged that the current voter list, which has been updated from time to time since the last 50 years, did not have the most recent records. They also alleged that it contained phantom voters.
Between 2004 and March 2008, the EC received 235 complaints concerning the names of voters which were missing from the list.
Investigations carried out by the EC later revealed that the names of these voters were omitted due to several factors, including being listed as “doubtful status” after the identity card numbers were confirmed to be missing from the National Registration Department database.
Another reason was that the identity card numbers were certified by the department as belonging to someone else, in some cases dead people.
There were also complaints that the names of certain voters were transferred from one constituency to another without their knowledge.
Abdul Rashid said that the entire process of preparing the bill and new registration exercise would take up to two years.
As such, a fresh roll would be ready in time for the 13th general election.
“It will depend on whether the Government will approve it or if a study needs to be carried out,” he said.
The entire process will include registration, exhibition of the new roll, investigation into any objections, re-exhibition and the preparation of the new master list.
Abdul Rashid said the EC would also need to discuss the matter at length with the political parties.
15 comments:
The EC needs to be transparent and clean from the inside and be a truly independent commision for a start. With the latest revelation by Rashid about the indelible ink, the EC clearly can be influenced by the cabinet (whether it was an opinion as claimed or a directive). When their integrity and independence is questionable, whatever measures they take will still be questionable and will only end in being a waste of public funds.
The EC itself has to be revamped from its core. It also has to be transparent and accountable if the new roll is to be formed. When some discrepencies occur or is brought to light, investigate and find out in a transparent manner how that mistake happened and who's accountable. Gain the public's trust otherwise why bother.
Postal votes is another major issue for contention. The number of postal votes to a location need to be transparently verified and the postal voters themselves need to be ensured that they are voting who they want and not pressured by superiors when voting.
I agreed.
well... if you agree then do something to pressure your party (Gerakan) leaders to push towards a cleaner EC since they are within BN. Raise a campaign from the grassroots, raise the issue in the next meeting, etc... Get your leaders to say something. Otherwise Gerakan will always be the silent partner of BN happily sailing along with no relevance.
As voiceofpolitics's motto, "A silent politician is no politician as silent politics is equal to zero politics.".. you guys better start speaking up!!!
cannotlah... speak up too much, they will become Paranjothi # 2.
Anyway, if you visit one of the Youth leaders blog, it state that you need to hold position before you can contribute. So many of the Youth has no position, so they cannot speak, I suppose.
The issue is not about speaking up or not. Before the 8 Mar, yes, the issue is all about speaking up. Someone just took over the role and put BN in Penang on the opposition since they cannot speak up.
The landscape of political climate has changed since then with the changes in UMNO and also the Pakatan movement. The issue has changed to a more challenging ones facing the Rakyat - Petrol subsidies after Sept, the rising cost of living, the shortage of rice and etc.
It is all about economy and the first one to cross the finishing line in coming up with a comprehensive plan will get the Rakyat confidence.
Being a leader is not all about position. It is all about how you read what is coming and adjust your direction.
Can anyone explain to me how the postal votes work? To which constituency are postal votes credited?
Thanks.
Anonymous:
Don't generalize that we don't speak up. Didn't Parajothy speak up.
Yes, the leaders did consider taking actions against him, but do you think it was for real. It was mere politics.
Our most vocal ex-YB/EXCO, Dato' Dr Toh Kin Woon have alway speaks his mind. Did we gag him? No!!
Do you think that every time when we speak up we must announced it to the world! Within BN, Gerakan is the most vocal, but UMNO was at that time extremely hard-of-hearing. Now, they hear better.
Gerakan, never questioned the result of GE12. It is good for the country if it don't leads to destructive politicking.
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Yes, a few youth leaders felt that they must hold suitable positions before they can contribute. They have the right to their opinion. Isn't that democracy or freedom of expression?
I agreed with you that this view is not the best or wrong. But, it is their right. I had told one of them so, even before that post.
They had actually contributed to the party and rakyat without realizing it. It was them, who organized the many Gerakan and Anak Malaysia youth projects. Do you want me to list it down to show you their contribution?
It was merely an error of presenting their view only, they had contributed!!!
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Now, we have to take on 2 roles, as the opposition at the state level and the reverse for the Federal government. Do you think the BN Government will really listen attentively to the opposition PR parties, I doubt it. The BN Federal government will naturally listen to its own coalition partners.
I agreed with you completely on your last three paragraphs.
H'ng Khoon Leng :
I know the question I am going to ask will remain a theory as we will never know the answer. The question I have - Don't you think so that if we have clarified to UMNO that let the Youth voice out their opinion and we must understand the root cause why they are voicing out, the vote count maybe different on 8 Mar ? We may lose but may not be so badly.
Well, rumors are that Paranjothi is being asked to stay away from campaigning for the GE12 but I have not clue on how true is this. If this is a politics show are written by yourself, then I believed if the rumors is true, then being asked to stay away is also a politics show. This is how the Rakyat thinks if the above is true - Gerakan has compromised its stands to keep its Master (note not partner) happy. Whether this is right or wrong, it is Gerakan's choice. However, in my perspective, I will rather ride on the wave and ask my partner (note not Master) to read into the root cause of the issue instead of asking us to take diciplinary action. Make a stand and go by it.
Next, if the leader is your aspiring Youth leader, don't you think that once he is in the position, this will be worst as everyone will follow in the steps that you must be in position to contribute. It may be his freedom of expression but when you assume a position, it comes with a responsibilities and it will influence the rest of the parties. I do not deny the fact that some of them may have contributed but positions are not a criteria to be able to contribute. I hate to say this to you but I know what I am writing is what is being shared by the General Public - From the postings in some of the blogs, you can see that instead of engaging the detractors, we are in self denial mode and "blast" off these people. If the strategy is to demonstrate the value of Gerakan, once this detractors sees it, they will convince others to come along with you. Just because some of them did not agree with the opnion, it doesn't meant that they are PKR, DAP or PAS. For all we know, they may just be someone who has been hurt by the Gerakan ruling of 18 years of legacy and they are letting off their anger now.
To be able to conquer their anger, we will need to understand them and work with them.
To the anonymous above:
You & your boss is so afraid me, until he needs you to monitor my blog and write nonconstructive comments.
But, again I must thank you. This means my posting is a threat to Pakatan Rakyat.
To gerakantakutumno:
Don't create lies. If Gerakan or BN can have 4 votes for each person, do you think we will lose the election in Penang.
Gerakan never cheat in Penang. Many will find it hard to believe,but the truth is, it was the Pakatan Rakyat that disenfranchise many new voters in Penang (I will post the information in the future at the right time).
Romerz:
The postal voters are in the voter roll. However, it is not stated that they are postal voters. You need to know how to read the roll to know that(the police and the armed forces voters). It is a specialized work, something that the PR should learn. Those that do not know how to read it, take the easy way out by claiming phantom postal votes.
Postal voters are personnel from the armed forces,police field force, election officials on duty, government officers serving overseas, students studying overseas, and spouses.
During postal votes counting, candidates' agents will be invited to attend. In GE12, the DAP agent for Tanjong parliamentary attended the vote counting but did not attend in GE11. It is the candidate's election agent responsibilties to arrange this.
Voter slips are printed with the candidate names. Each votes are verified to be from a registered postal voters. Documentation are more tedious than for normal voters.
From GE12 onwards, candidates can actually request to sent observers to the voting sites in army camps, police stations, etc. I think Gerakan did not sent any.
For me, the major concern with postal votes is whether there are undue pressure on the rank and file to vote for any specific candidate or party. All must be able to exercise the rights freely. This is a major concern.
For your information, a lot more than 20% of the postal votes in Tanjong were not in favour of BN.
On the issue of to which constituency are postal votes credited, what I noticed is that those voters are sometimes registered under the main camps or stations that they had previously served or is currently serving. For example, some policemen registered for Tanjong parliamentary seat are no more serving in Penang, but are still in the list. Is this wrong? I do not hold any view on this, but for your info at least 30% of Tanjong voters do not stay in Tanjong areas anymore.
Another example, is the 2nd Brigade Army Camp at Jln Sultan Ahmad Shah which look like a ghost mansion than a camp. But, the soldiers that had previously served under this camp are still registered under that camp, hence they will would in Tanjong. Is this wrong? I am not sure.
Deleted 4 comments for spreading lies.
I don't like to delete comments, but decided to exercise my right as the moderator to give that particular lying commentator a taste of what he can expect, if he continue to lie.
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